Just stay away from their entry level windows. Once you do that, then I think you'll have the information you need to make your decision. We too are trying to decided between the vinyl vs aluminum PGT Winguard windows and doors. I would say you need two or three more bids to round out the estimates. Comparable to other quality impact windows out there such as the PGT WinGuard, Soft-Lite Armor Impact series, and the Simonton StormBreaker Plus. I have no qualms recommending them. We have 2 more companies seeing us this week that will give us quotes. They will be removing all the old windows and installing all the new ones clean up delivery building permit, all included. Thank you. One is using the ESW Elite and the other CWS Windpact Plus (assuming this is also the glass they use in aluminum windows and doors, they have not clarified). Dan K. - Site Editor Doers Window Mfg 5. Is the WindPact Plus overkill for the Orlando area? It has not been a good experience .product seems ok but the installation has been a diaster!! Entire home needs new windows. Back of Home Remodel: Patio and Window Design, Adding small windows to sides of fireplace. Ive had my CWS windows for a year now and the only thing I don't like are the latches. CWS is coming in at nearly $9,000 less than PGT!!! I appreciate the posters who shared their experience. Here is a summary of how the competitors of PGT Custom Windows + Doors compare to one another: Ply Gem Holdings has the most employees (9,471). Meredith - Homeowner - from 2018, Meredith, I think the CWS and PGT quotes are worth the extra money over the AmCraft. Thanks in advance for your assistance. We are in the midst of looking at different brands of sliding vinyl windows to replace the old windows. Dana - Homeowner - from 2016, Dana, these two impact windows are pretty close in quality, as are CWS and PGT in terms of quality and construction. One company claims that the CWS Aria series windows are not good and don't compare to Soft-Lite Durashield. (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), I just got a bid on the CWS 8100 single hung window. I understand that WindPact Plus is intended for the High Velocity Hurricane Zone and StrongStorm is for all other areas. Elaine - Homeowner - from 2021, Im replacing a large slider door in Destin Florida. PS We live about 2 miles from the Gulf of Mexico in Seminole, FL. that will offer this service at an affordable rate. Poor Customer Service all around, you expect when you spend that kind of. Staying the vinyl family of products, Simonton Stormbreaker and the PGT impact product are two of the more favorably reviewed products. Let me know your thoughts. Jo - Homeowner - from 2018, Jo, I would look at CWS's Windpact Plus series and the PGT EnergyVue series. Are there any window fabricators that make in bulk colored vinyl product? The contractor was here today to give us a quote, and told me the windows he would use are Custom Window Systems 8200 series. Meredith - Homeowner - from 2018, Meredith, that seems on the high side as far as I'm concerned. I have used both windows in multiple homes I have built in South Florida. homosexuality in ancient greece google scholar So, from what I can tell, once the winds reach hurricane strength your windows are no longer promised not to leak. Lorelei - Homeowner - from 2015, Lorelei, here are 4 manufacturers that should have dealers or local window companies in Michigan that carry their windows. I would stick to their mid range or premium series (ask each of the reps who comes to visit what those specific models would be.) Thank you so very much! (assumes medium sized window and normal installation), Hi Dane, I wanted your opinion on the following estimate I received for 8 CWS Storm Strong 6100 series vinyl impact windows single hung. Susan - Homeowner - from 2018, Susan, I'm not sure if that too high, but it does appear to be quite expensive at first glance. Soft-Lite Barcelona Series Windows and PGT 5470 Series Doors: $28.5k PGT Windows have a great reputation in the window installation/manufacturer business. From FHIA One of them evidently has the seal broken. Per side I believe. Tim - Site Editor - from 2020, Dane, Tim, Good afternoon. Look for the window with the best leak performance and you might be one step closer to avoiding buyer's remorse. Quote was comparable to PGT but much better warranty. I'd start with a local home improvement store, call them up and ask if they make custom sized screens. Dane - Site Editor - from 2016, -- Estimated CWS 8100 Costs: $600 to $750 installed -- In aluminum, they dont make what I prefer. The dimensions of the ones I need are; Thank you in advance and I appreciate your advice and assistance. Deborah - Homeowner - from 2019, Deborah, the CWS Aria seems to be a decent product for an entry level window. "I just got quotes on windows from Paradise, Window Wall and PGT from Home Depot.". their work is being monitored ,and the owner really cares. Westlake Royal Roofing Solutions. Once you've reached this, you'll know it because they won't move any lower, then you sign on the dotted line. You could threaten to report them to the BBB if they don't cover the labor cost of the windows you purchased 3 years ago, but I would not pin my hopes on this approach. We have 5 openings, 3 of which require two windows each. I don't think I mentioned, they are the 8000 series storm-force Impact windows. I would prefer you go with the Windpact series from CWS. Are single hung windows (which FHIA said are the only kind they deal with) much better than double hung? CWS Estimate: $47.4K (using CWS patio sliders) The following are eight Florida ENERGY STAR window manufacturers. I was originally going with PGT's but I feel the New South window is a much better quality window and has the best warranty in the business and for the same price as two of the PGT quotes I got. They are particularly known for their "hurricane" windows or impact windows for coastal homes. The company enjoys a good reputation and makes a solid window at relatively affordable prices. Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, Hi Dane,I'm new to the Venice, FL area after moving from NJ. "Will the vinyl ones hold up as well as the aluminum ina tropical storm or hurricane?". Single hung windows used to be the red headed stepchild of windowshowever that has changed. I have spent a lot of time calling around and havent been able to get quotes for Soft-Lite. Itd products are designed for both new construction and existing homes. Along with quality installation, you will be well served. Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus vs PGT #1 by FLhomeowner Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:19 am I received a quote for impact resistant windows from a company in southwest florida that installs both Custom Window Systems Wind-Pact Plus (CWS) as well as PGT windows. ABC Supply is a wholesale distributor of both new construction windows and replacement windows. Dane - Site Editor - from 2021, -- Estimated CWS Patio Door Price: $1,600 to $2,750 installed -- Not enough ratings CEO Rating Jeff Jackson 62 / 100 CEO Rating Winner Even if the glass is damaged, an impact window will remain secured in the frame. I asked about aluminum frames and was told you could only do aluminum in new construction.". I hadn't heard that MWM. We did a window job together several years ago. I was told by the Installer that Stormbreaker plus windows has a perimeter trim which covers more of the glass. Neil - Homeowner - from 2021, -- Estimated CWS Aria Price: $550 to $700 installed -- CWS, PGT, and Soft-Lite all have good reputations. Quote was for 15 slider windows with prairie grid. Dane - Site Editor - from 2018, Hi Dane, I live in Clearwater Florida and would appreciate your advice on my 2 final choices/quotes. 31 windows in all. My bad cpartist I was thinking of CGI not CWS. Take a look at our recommended brands and do a simple google search to see what is available in your area. Custom Window Systems vs PGT Innovations Custom Window Systems vs PGT Innovations Competitors at Custom Window Systems is not yet available. Perhaps Lowes' or Home Depot? Many thanks. The CWS windows were nice but averaged $1250.00 per window. In total, they have 5 product lines including Eli, Elite, Prestige, and Alessia. 8100 Series | 8200 Series PGT Innovations is also the nation's largest manufacturer of impact-resistant windows and doors, holds the leadership position in its primary markets, and is part of the S&P SmallCap 400 Index. One is proposing Custom Window Systems 8000 series for about 5.5k for 9 windows, and the other would install softlite Imperial LS for 6.7k. Damien - Homeowner - from 2016, Damien, 11 quotes, wow, I am impressed you had the fortitude to sit through all of that. Business Profile Custom Window Systems, Inc. Windows Contact Information 1900 SW 44th Ave Ocala, FL 34474-8743 Get Directions Visit Website (352) 368-6922 Customer Complaints 11 complaints. I would see which of their windows you like the look of and then I would use the lower bids to see how low you can get the CWS or PGT dealer to go. Im leaning toward Home Depot but need to decide between aluminum or vinyl. I agree that you should continue to work with CWS to find a solution that works. I would recommend a few more bids to see how these compare. Both Pella and Viwinco are not considered quality windows. If so, that price isn't too bad, but it doesn't strike me as super competitive, at least at first glance. If you are doing full framed replacement windows you certainly can use an aluminum framed window same as vinyl or wood. A service charge from the dealer to swap something out as large as a sliding glass door panel would be normal. PGT allows you to change the frame colour, configuration, grid style and glass tint of each pre-set design. PGT 5400 series I feel like they were trying to rip me off. Please note, our website is not affiliated with this window manufacturer. I'll let you all know how it goes! " Had my wife and I decided to pull the trigger tonight, he would have gone as low as $11,597 - this after the $500 coupon had we made the appointment through their Sam's Club kiosk, plus a discount for the free upgrade to Solar Max glass (with silver particles embedded in the glass), the military discount, and the rebate which he had to have his boss approve. Thank you. If the AmCraft bid is only $3.5K above CWS though, the CWS bid might not be out of line. Tim - Site Editor - from 2016, House windows He says that CWS does not have this perimeter trim thus showing more glass. 1 size H37.5 x W 35.5 Holland - Contractor - from 2012, Vinyl windows are getting more popular in Florida, but they aren't available in a lot of colors. All windows will be single hung. 3 - 36 x 60 Picture Quote is $9,676. Eastern Architectural 400 Series: $21.5k We have 2 more companies seeing us this week that will give us quotes. Use the HD bid as leverage, say something like, I have a bid on Simonton (leave out that it's from HD) that is $8500 and I know you can't match it, but I need you to work with me on the price because I really want to go with you. Your advice and help is appreciated. I'm not a window expert and don't have a dog in this but I think that most windows are tested for water penetration up to about winds of 60mph. Also we have a home in sw florida and are considering building a home there and would like a product for that area as well but must be hurricane rated. Frank - Homeowner - from 2021, We received a bid for 7 CWS 8100 series and 2 8200 series. My biggest concern is getting a good product at a fair price. Ultimately, I want black/bronze exterior and white interior. Thanks for your time and efforts. AmCraft isn't what I would consider a very good brand and I would be wary about going with them. In the PGT WindGuard Aluminum line the black or bronze is only available on both the exterior and interior. In terms of the windows they sell, I couldn't say because it looks like they probably resell windows instead of manufacture them themselves (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). The company who is doing the project has tried several "possible solutions", none of which has worked. If you get the "premium" vinyl window from either of these companies, you will be getting a very good windowcertainly one that I would have in my own home. I really wish your website could provide some insight into who and which companies we should talk to. They have a very cool latch and auto lock feature that is quite nice. 3 size H62 x W 52 PGT aspires to develop innovative flexible solutions for. CWS quote: $9400 PJ - Homeowner - from 2019, PJ, in Florida I usually recommend PGT, CWS, Simonton and Ply Gem. If this doesnt work, I would start googling local window dealers in your area and simply asking them what brands they carry and if the brands can be ordered in a bronze exterior finish. $10,175.00 PGT 5400 EnergyVue My own opinion is that it's nice looking, nothing crazy, but nice lines and a clean design. Both companies make lots of window series. The company we bought the window/sliders from does not like going thru all the trouble to replace and then reinstall.they can charge me whatever price they want for labor. Which one were you thinking of?? I'd get a couple more bids to compare it to -- an impact window from PGT, Sunrise, Soft-Lite and Simonton if you can. Is this a quality window, or is it a low-grade category window? The Simonton has the best warranty but Im more concerned about the quality of the product and appearance and not the warranty (since all three have a good warranty). I had definitely heard good things about PGT, but I've never heard of CWS and was curious what their deal is and whether the prices seem in line. Re manufacturers, Simonton has a double lifetime warranty. They proudly innovate and introduce products that meet or exceed, the most stringent coastal requirements. He and I go back nearly 50 years. The CWS window costs, which were for single hungs, were $7,500 total, the PGT windows price was $800 more. It is a lifetime warranty that covers everything including screens. We had 21 CWS 8100 Series windows installed in 2018. Jeremy - Homeowner - from 2016, Jeremy, that is a big price difference. Thank you, Shar. AmCraft came in around $16,500. I'd see how these compare and then go from there SIX YEARS AGO WE BOUGHT OVER $47,000.00 WINDOWS AND SLIDERS (7 SLIDERS) - as of yesterday I just filed / called for replacement of our fourth sliding glass panel doors - these are the Miami Dade double insulated with all the extras - failing. Most times the factory will pay for only the window and force the homeowner to use only it's factory sponsored labor (at a high rate) to try to offset the loss of product value. Will the vinyl ones hold up as well as the aluminum ina tropical storm or hurricane? Headquartered in Ocala, Florida, the company has been in business since 1986 and serves most of Florida through dealer networks -- i.e. Looks like NewSouth is good enough for PGT - PGT acquires NewSouth in $92M cash deal. It sounds like they are responding so that's good, but yes you have to pay for the labor and that seems unfair given the timeline of the install. Tim - Site Editor - from 2018, Hello Tim, Ive been on your website and really appreciate the education that it provides. Dane - Site Editor - from 2022, Hi Dane I'm looking at CWS.CC Windgaurd plus 8000 series. PGT: WinGuard Hurricane Windows & Doors. We are having a difficult time accepting such a huge price difference. We fell in love with the product claims, the low heat transfer and easy operation. The key, is pick great windows but the installing company is just as important!! 1 - 52 x 26 CWS, as they are often referred to, is regarded as a solid manufacturer of impact windows (and non impact windows) that is roughly on par with PGT. I have not heard of many issues with CWS windows. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. It does however use a pocket sill, which funnels water through the frame and out weep holes. I've spent a lot of time doing research and calling the various companies to get quotes. Eco windows have a large bottom sash if I remember right. CWS is owned by PGT I do believe for a couple of years now, they just operate under the original name. The Windpact series is built for coastal applications on the East Coast as the company is headquartered in Ocala Florida. I would go back and tell them if they can do it for $10,250, you will sign today and see what they say. Thank you. What else can you do, really? The price quote from Home Depot seems high, $1175 per window, I think you can do better than that, although I don't have any project specifics to back that up. Marie - Homeowner - from 2016, Marie, the 8200 is quite a nice impact window, assuming you like how the window looks. Now it's time to scrutinise ES Windows! 11 windows for $12K. He was really pushing EAS windows. So what brand do you recommend? PGT Custom Windows + Doors main competitors are Agc Glass Company North America, Carpenter Technology, and Air System Components. I like CWS and think it's the better window, but I'm not sure it's worth 30% more. Would appreciate your steering me in the right direction. Custom Windows Systems has manufactured high quality windows and doors since 1986. 1 - 52 x 62 Dane - Site Editor - from 2019, Hi Tim! All the windows use impact glass with a Low-E 366 tempered glass package. Which window is best and why? Entire home needs new windows. Dane - Site Editor - from 2019, Tim, I have a fairly complex set of windows and work that needs to be done for the install. Dane - Site Editor - from 2018, -- Estimated CWS Patio Door Costs: $1,600 to $2,750 installed -- All of them are definitely available throughout Florida and offer nice quality vinyl windows at a mid range price. It sounds like the opening is probably not standard so this is probably the reason (one of them certainly) for the high cost. That is the story we are being give. My CWS quote was DOUBLE my PGT quote, so you need another quote directly from a local dealer/installer. Thanks millworkman. I wish I had some sort of remedy, but I really don't. Any thoughts on the CWS 6100 or recommend any non-impact vinyl from either company? Depending on the "defects", I think you will, contractually, need to give them the opportunity to remake the product and deliver it in specification. I believe these are the best vinyl window series they carry, but definitely double check with the sales people on this. Paradise quoted us out on Soft-Lites at $9100 for 1 slider, 5 double hungs windows, and 1 bathroom window. How about ECO window systems in Florida; how do they compare with PGT? I am concerned about the adhesion and life of the paint on the vinyl. We compared apples to apples as far as being vinyl, Low-E, Argon filled, etc. Sun-Tek Manufacturing Beyond ENERGY STAR Window Manufacturers We manufacture Earthwise windows & doors- the only vinyl impact windows & doors manufactured in FL backed by the Good Housekeeping Seal. We offer impact windows and hurricane doors, along with non-impact options, with many benefits. Tom - Homeowner - from 2018, Tom, that price seems high to me. CWS produces a range of products, including single hung windows, horizontal roller windows, sliding glass doors, fixed windows, accessories, horizontal vinyl film windows, verticle vinyl film windows, acrylic windows, prime doors, garage screen enclosures and rough openings. PGT windows and doors carry a limited lifetime warrantyshould be very similar to CWS. Custom Window Systems, Inc. 4. So even though the CWS Aria is their entry-level window, you thinks it's a decent product? I would get a couple more bids from local companies to see how they compare with your current bid. "Need personal recommendations for a business that sells & installs PGT hurricane impact home windows.". Kind Regards, Shar - Homeowner - from 2020, Shar, do I search for "CWS windows in your city and state" and see if any local dealers come up. Can you give me some basic insight into these two window manufacturers? Cabana Door is oversized on length but narrower than standard widths. How does the CWS compare, and is the softlite worth the extra 20% all other things being equal? PS: thank you all for sharing your stories, I'll be replacing 28yr old windows this year and my research brought me here. Paradise quoted us out on CWS windows $7800. The other company you should look at is PGT, which is my go to window. They are about 12 years old. That is my issue. (1) 26 x 38 single hung I did notice you dont recommend the CWS entry-level Aria series, but do like both the CWS 8100 series and the PGT 5400. If it were me, I'd get a few more bids to see what else is out there. Send our site editor Dane your questions, and get personalized answers that can save you thousands of dollars on your project! WindPact Series | General Reviews, Custom Window Systems is a vinyl and aluminum window and door manufacturer that specializes in both impact and non impact products. Do you feel these windows are a good quality product and is the price estimate fair? You have selected two great companies, just goes to prove what hard work and research get you. PGT Windows offers a non-transferable limited lifetime warranty on its window products. If there is a significant difference in the reputation and track record of the company doing the work then this would add a wrinkle to the equation. Patio Door Reviews | StormStrong Series We purchased PGT Winguard Vinyl, Grey Tint, 1816 Charcoal screens, TC4: Marine Turtle Protection, Argon Gas, Low E: Energy Shield Max, Raised OGEE grid on the interior and exterior.
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