I suppose it's quite possible that there were areas incemeteries reserved for illegitimate children, suicides, etc, and thishas mutated over the years. Two local boys reportedly unearthed the concrete-covered tank used by the home while playing in 1975 and found hundreds of children's bones inside. See:http://www.english.upenn.edu/~traister/hughes.htmlfor "The Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk", and other such drivel onthis theme. 13:59 GMT 08 Jun 2014. It was made up so that people would pay for the indulgences that would free the souls of their loved ones. Have never been anywhere near Belfast: And thus are unlikely to have been exposed to Irish propaganda of any: description. Could that be it? In the same way they stopped the no meat on Fridays and now only during lent. Phil "Interesting Facts Our Teachers Told Us" Edwards-- Phil Edwards http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/amroth/"This is just my opinion, and I look back and realise it does little to answer your question." At least we know this now, she said. The book is long gone. And its clear why nuns have no power. An inquiry into Catholic Church run homes for unwed mothers in Ireland has revealed alarming death rates among babies. Tales about "schools and convents haunted by : the ghosts of babies whose skeletons were found in the spaces between the: walls" have been passed around for generations. Did you ever meet Alberto? By some strange incidence of AFU precept 1 [1] I heard theself same story a couple of days ago from a friend of mine who wasbought up by nuns in an orphanage. Only a fool would buy it. News of the mass graves at Tuam finally made the newspapers last week Religious community's site had primitive conditions with babies neglected Infection and disease ran unchecked; measles and. situs link alternatif kamislot nuns buried babies in walls Falling walls. Between 1925 and 1961, a Roman Catholic order of nuns called the Bon Secours Sisters operated the Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home, or the Home, an institution where unmarried pregnant women gave birth in Tuam, Ireland. They kicked it around, but when we looked at it we saw it was a child's skull. However, there's been another theory, for more than . Catherine Corless Source: Niall Carson/PA Wire. The home, located. They stressed that the records were all handed over to the local authority now within the HSE when The Home closed in 1961. : heard it (me):: 1. >chris 'fufas' grace (ch@transdata.co.nz) wrote:>>: Except that both the person who told me the story and the person who>: heard it (me):>: 1. Each chapterdiscussed a specific type of phenomenon, starting with a "true" story about itand then examining similar historical accounts and the reasons behind thehauntings. What the boys found was horrific. This is also the main reason why I cannot cooperate together with the Roman Catholic Institution against abortion. June 4, 2014 article: Inquisitr reported Tuesday about the discovery of nearly 800 bodies found "in a septic tank " on the property of a former Catholic "mother and baby home." Known by locals as "The Home," it operated between the years 1925 and 1961. I did. Nearly 800 children died at the Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home in the town of Tuam, in western Ireland, according to death certificates discovered by a local historian, Catherine Corless. Two miles into this long-ago Irish morning, the young girl passes through a gantlet of gray formed by high walls along the Dublin Road that seem to thwart sunshine. Putting the BOR aspects aside (and there were no BORish elements inthe discussion I was having), this is obviously a widespread story andpossibly a UL. Really?I was told by an interesting teacher [1] that Jacobian slanghad "nunnery" as an ironic euphemism for a brothel.r. [1] 9th grade English; during my tenure with her class, she appeared asthe lead in "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie", and led her class tobelieve that she *did* play the bath scene nude. -- America: where you can still eat the meat! Here in Tuam we hope to have some justice for them.'. Brid Smith has also demanded the. "We are investigating this matter, the grounds have been surveyed and there is what appears to be human remains discovered. "Remember that the children went in there so the families could conceal their shame, and the kids were often adopted," he said. From the evidence presented by Catherine Corless and Frannie Hopkins, it would seem that the children was placed into the ground, that coffins were not used to bury them, and that there was no gravestone. Are 12,000 miles from Belfast.>: 2. It is possible that the infants were born to prostitutes or laborers who worked at the bathhouse. "Children went in there so the families could conceal their shame". Catherine managed to get a map of The Home back from when it was a workhouse in the late 19th and early 20th century. Is this happening in convents today? But they are scared to come out in public, and tell the truth about their claimed to be holy sisters and their holy fathers. A Church that sets such store by the sanctity of human life and its opposition to abortion showed very little respect for the young souls in its care, and that rankles with Teresa Kelly. Here, we look at how the story has unfolded, and all of the many, many questions that still remain. From 1925 until 1961, an order of nuns calls the Bon Secours Sisters ran an institution at this building in Tuam in Co Galway. Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Source: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland. : Except that both the person who told me the story and the person who. A skeleton of a baby was being discovered encased in a wall inside the Monasterio de Santa Catalina in Arequipa in Peru. The tank has now been surrounded by a housing estate, but an officer from Ireland's Gardai police force said remains had recently been found after a police survey at the site. 'We all knew about the "home babies,' Catherine told me. For more than one week, the garda had repeatedly said that there was nothing for them to investigate. There were babies dying every day.' She said that the cemetery attachedto the church (attached to the convent attached to the orphanage) hada walled off area for the illegitimate offspring of Nuns (who couldnot be buried in consecrated ground). For anyone familiar with Ireland (I was brought up there in the 1950s and 1960s), the story of nuns consciously throwing babies into a septic tank never made sense. Still, according to The Telegraph, Childrens Minister Charlie Flanagan said on Wednesday in a statement, Many of the revelations are deeply disturbing and a shocking reminder of a darker past in Ireland when our children were not cherished as they should have been.. The children also attended local schools, where they were segregated from other students, and would have been treated by local medical staff. A Prime Time documentary from three years ago covered this issue. I said I do. The babies were then left in the orphanage to be raised by the nuns. Might make a good movie. (The 16th century, folks). Of the. Also, it was stories told from one>: person to another over many years, so if there is an anti-Catholic>: bias behind it -- it is not merely the product of a single>: bone-picking tale-teller but evidence of general ill-feeling toward>: Catholics by non-Catholics, which I suspected. The public is outraged, and demands answers. I am a medievalist, and the'rumour' is pretty common all over Europe, and especially in England, where itgained a lot of strength following the dissolution of the monasteries (andnunneries) by Henry VIII. In 1871 Sister Josefa Cadena, a strict Dominican nun, was sent by Pope Pius IX to reform the monastery. But how do we know that they were buried in the former sewage tank? We never had any young, good looking>priests. The bones of the children should be extracted and buried in Tuams main graveyard, she said. CRUEL nuns buried dead children in a sewage tank and stole babies from their mothers and sold them off to rich American families. The priest came over and blessed it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version. In one chamber, the demon looms up before her on the wall in shadow form . Roman Catholic religious orders ran homes for unmarried pregnant girls until well into the 1990s all over Ireland. Discussion>is best done somewhere else.>>Andrew Warinner, I understand, and of course it wasn't my intention to offendanyoneor reel in a loon LOL. The Nun features a memorable scene in which several main characters amble through a haunted crypt inside the Abbey. May or may not be an urban legend, but it is too close to the BoRfor discussion of whether there is any truth behind it. Discussionis best done somewhere else. A week later [my contact there] got back to me and said 'do you really want all of these deaths?' She told me I would be charged for each record. With other townsfolk Ms Corless began to raise money to erect a memorial for the children who had died at the home. In nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent, I covered stories of mass graves in far-flung locations in Eastern Europe and Russia. On the Urban Legend [www.urbanlegend.com] site there was the opinion thatpeople usually make up something sinister any time there are tunnelsespecially if not just anyone uses them. Officials said. The Archbishop of Tuam, Michael Neary, said he is 'greatly shocked' by the news, but he is quick to blame others. What amazes me, is that limbo was not exactly a dogma of less importance. Probably already has. A substantial number of these women may well have come to thenunneries pregnant and disgraced and in need of refuge, or evenrespectably widowed and pregnant but without means of support - thesewomen's children would presumably be raised with the orphans and thewomen would work for their keep. Also, some convents used to operateor be affiliated with orphanages, so people would leave babies there. "Tuam was a former workhouse and conditions were pretty bleak," said O'Sullivan, co-author of the 2001 book "Suffer the Little Children: The inside Story of Ireland's Industrial Schools. "From the abnormally high death rate amongst this class of children one must come to the conclusion that they are not looked after with the same care and attention as that given to ordinary children," Fianna Fil TD Dr Conn Ward told the Dil. That the nuns had buried the babies in a lovely wee graveyard somewhere, but just couldn't remember where? I left the roman Catholic church when I was ten or eleven, but was obliged to go to church till I left home at 17. Pregnant women who delivered their infants at the Home were required to work at the Home for no less than one year without pay. The family of Shubenacadie Residential School survivor Frank Thomas buried his ashes near the site of the former school Wednesday. Comments? He could still be alive or he's in the grave.'. Enclosing a person into a tiny box was considered one of the slowest forms of torture . Church and state have repeatedly failed to help mothers whose children were sent for adoption in the 1950s and 1960s; some accuse them of operating a 'deny until they die' policy of stonewalling. If a baby survived childbirth, they were separated from the children born from wedlock. When, of course, most tunnelshave very dull uses. View all posts by ivarfjeld. how to press delete on gk61. My friend is emphatic that she saw suchan area in a cemetery, and that it was unconsecrated. It took a long time, but Catherine Corless methodically researched what happened to children who died there. I've seen a report on areputable Canadian journalism show, and have found this accounton the net: http://www.monmouth.com/~ssteinhauer/bckgrnd.html. It's so obvious I suspect that It has been done already. Or maybe the church and state are expressing shock that nuns in mid-20th century.
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